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it was ronald reagan working with tip o'neill the idea -- there has been a traditional democrat and republican consensus, lower tax rates, broadening the tax base works and you can, but i -- >> i don't, you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't know... it would take too long to go through all the math. let me say it this way: you can lower tax rates 20% across the board, by closing loopholes and still have, the middle class, things like charitable deductions, home purchases, health care. what we are saying is, people are going to get lower tax rates and, therefore, will not send as much money to washington, and will keep it and decide for themselves. we've done it and created economic growth. >> chris: if, suppose, that the doubters are right and president obama takes office and -- >> i've run the numbers in congress, they do. we have five other studies that show -- >> let's assume it doesn't. the question is what is most important to romney, will he scale back on the 20% tax cut for the wealthy? would he scale back and say, okay. we'll have to raise taxes for the middle class? i guess t
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